7/29/1850 Sycamore Twp, Wyandot Co, OH. At census time John and Julia, both 23, with children Mary A, 2, and William, 3 months, lived with wagonmaker, Henry P McEwen, 24. John was a blacksmith. Also living there was Julia's brother Nelson Van Gundy, 18, no occupation.
Bef 1858 IL when son Andrew was born.
9/4/1860 Big Creek Twp, Henry Co, MO. That year John was counted by the census taker at age 32, Julia at 33. They had five children by then: Mary J, 12, Charles S. 9, John W, 7, David E, 4, and Andrew P, 2. John was still blacksmithing with property valued at $250/175. They were the only Grings in the county and they didn't stay long.
Bef 1862 McLean Co, IL when son William was born. Apparently MO was not to their liking as they didn't stay long.
Daughter Amanda was born in IL in 1865, Julia was head of the house in 1870.